Olin Moyles Ghost

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  MP3s !!! 2010-2011 DC TALKS

  by yknot in

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  commentary on mp3s: (in addition to circulate as you see fit!).

  in light of the wts's recent attempts to conceal it's talks from broader inspection and documentation, mp3s to the public are now mostly the works of the 'conscious class' and those exjws who force themselves to endure hours upon hours of control-laced presentations.

  kudos to all those who embody anonymous.

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  Muchas gracias to yknot and her network!
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  The "Theocratic" government of IRAN anounced today haircuts which are banned like Mullets!!! Sound theocratically familiar?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes praise allah, the theocratic government of iran today has anounced which haircuts are banned.

  ponytails and mullet cuts will get you punished...{also the jewish cut is out he he}....doesn't it make you glad the witnesses don't have there own country.

  barbers and hairstylists are happy..

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  "hail the the-o-cra-cy ev-er in-crea-sing...."
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  The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

  by theMadJW in

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  2. bible

  http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

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  MadJW, going back to one of your posts from yesterday, you posted a page from the Rev. Climax book and said regarding the WTS: "That's as close as they get to ADMITTING they are just guessing- as we ALL are!"

  And I agree with your statement. But this touches on an issue that bothered me back when I was a practicing, believing JW--namely, why should a "spirit-directed" organization be required to guess? How exactly is the "spirit" directing them? When they screw something up, how (if at all) was the "spirit" involved?

  We take for granted that the people who wrote the Bible were inspired by God and everything they wrote that was recorded as scripture is 100% true. Under that assumption God is capable of communicating clearly to people. So, why is it that God chose to communicate clearly with people 2000+ years ago, but can't be bothered to do so anymore.

  To be frank, it doesn't pass the smell test. Isn't it convenient that God performed miracles, appeared to people via angels, talking animals, and burning shrubberies at a time before video cameras and flash photography were invented? It seems that the God of the Bible (for all his flaws) understood that people needed some kind of supernatural proof to believe in him and to put stock in his representatives. Otherwise, why would he give Moses the power to turn his stick into a snake? Or why did he make Aaron's rod sprout flowers--even after God had killed the usurpers to the priesthood? Or why did Jesus let doubting Thomas touch his wounds?

  If it was OK for people back then to require some tangible proof before accepting that a person or group is God's representative, why not today?
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  The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

  by theMadJW in

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  http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

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  Deuteronomy 15:23 "You must pour the blood on the ground like water, or you can separate it into Watchtower-Society-approved "fractions." If you do that, you can go ahead and consume it."
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  The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

  by theMadJW in

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  http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

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  John 14:6: "No one comes to the father except through his spirit-directed (but not "inspired") organization."
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  The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

  by theMadJW in

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  http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

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  1 Corinthians 14:34: "women should remain silent in the congregation. They are not allowed to speak except when giving a Ministry School part, Service Meeting demonstration, or commenting at the book study or WT study, but must be in submission, as the Law says."
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  The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

  by theMadJW in

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  2. bible

  http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

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  How about this one:

  Exodus 20:11 "for in six creative days of 7,000 years each, Jehovah made the heaven and the earth..."
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  The new explanation of the Generation

  by Newborn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi.

  can someone who has attended the dc tell me what the new understanding of the generation is and how they explain it with help from the bible?.

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  Wing Commander, I know, this new doctrine is so absurd that it's almost funny. I love how they go back to Genesis and twist a verse about Joseph and his brothers in order to try to marshal some semblance of scriptural support for this wacky doctrine they cooked up.

  For some reason, the Society conveniently ignored the other references to generation in Matthew (such as Matt. 1:17, 23:36). Of course, it's clear why the Society ignored those references--because they don't support the "new light" cooked up by the boys in Brooklyn!
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  The new explanation of the Generation

  by Newborn in

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  hi.

  can someone who has attended the dc tell me what the new understanding of the generation is and how they explain it with help from the bible?.

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  Olin Moyles Ghost

  Here's a transcript of what was said in a talk (called "Remain in the Secret Place of the Most High") at a recent DC:

  That brings us to the question here, or the topic, that at no time would we want to leave the "secret place." This is not the time to leave the "secret place," for that matter there wouldn't be any time to leave the "secret place." But especially now is no time to leave the "secret place." Why? Well, particularly in view of the recent clarification we had with regard to Matthew 24 and verse 34. Now turn over there, Matthew 24 and verse 34.

  We just had a Watchtower lesson last week with some fine material about this verse. Matthew 24:34: "Truly I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur." Of course, the accurate or proper understanding of that really underscores the fact that we're living deep in the time of the end and there's a need at this time as never before for us to have an increased sense of urgency. Of course, that generation consists of contemporaries of individuals who lived at the same time.

  Now the Watchtower of--the 2008 Watchtower--the 12/15 issue, page 25 made this comment about the word "generation": it says the word generation usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event. Now we've got an example of that: Exodus 1, and verse 6. "Eventually Joseph died, and also all his brothers, and all that generation."

  Just think about what's written there--it refers to Joseph and all his brothers as "that generation." Now 10 of Josephs brothers witnessed events before Joseph's birth and at least 2 of those brothers lived after his death. So they were of a variety of ages but they were contemporaries and viewed as one "generation."

  Now, correspondingly, the word "generation" there at Matthew 24:34 is comprised--or comprises--two groups of anointed Christians. The first group was on hand in the year 1914 when the sign of Christ's presence first became observable. The second group of anointed Christians are those who were anointed later and for a time were contemporaries of the older group. Now in view of that, Jesus' words there in Matthew 24:34 indicate that some of the second group will witness the beginning of the Great Tribulation, so the length of the generation, while not specified as far as the number of years, but it's a limited period of time.

  Now we might illustrate it this way, F.W. Franz was born in the year 1893, he was baptized in the year 1913, so brother Franz was alive to discern the sign in 1914. Now Brother Franz, escuse me, Brother Franz lived until the year 1992, and many present-day anointed ones were his contemporaries and part of the generation that Jesus said would not pass away until all these things occur.

  Now in view of that, Brother Franz, and for that matter, other faithful anointed ones lived in very challenging time period. A very challenging time period where strong faith was needed in order for them to remain in the secret place of the most high.
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  The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

  by theMadJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

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  Matthew 28:19-20: "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, the son, the holy spirit, and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society."